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It's Just Politics, Babe
Sen. Feingold's Bill to Censure Bush!
Published on March 13, 2006 By
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Once he makes it to the floor to introduce it, call or write your representatives to back it!
Nobody should be above the law and this is the very least we can do.
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davad70
on Mar 21, 2006
How about this one? Link
Next time do your own research, ok?
Thanks for the link, jackass. Why do you have to be such a hostile asshole all the time?
Prove it. Prove there is a warrant for every one for Clinton and before. Or do not make statements of fact that you cannot authenticate.
Don't be silly, the administration freely admits that it hasn't gotten warrants for this NSA program. With Echelon and Clinton, they have always said they got warrants and no one has offered evidence that they didn't. I don't have to prove anything to you. If you don't believe what I said, show me proof that shows otherwise.
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stevendedalus
on Mar 22, 2006
Then Blame Reno! She told him to, and paid him! Dont shoot the messenger!
Touché, but then once she appointed him she had no contol over his spending.
All this would be much ado about nothing, inasmuch as the government wouldn't get it all together to act on the data anyway, except that info on innocents would be used by con-artists for identity theft.
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drmiler
on Mar 22, 2006
Thanks for the link, jackass. Why do you have to be such a hostile asshole all the time?
Because I don't care much for jerk-offs that want everybody else to do research for them! Next time don't be so thin-skinned. There was "nothing" hostile in my last reply to you. There is this time.
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Dr Guy
on Mar 22, 2006
With Echelon and Clinton, they have always said they got warrants
Dont be silly yourself. You stated a fact. A fact is proveable. So prove it.
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Dr Guy
on Mar 22, 2006
Touché, but then once she appointed him she had no contol over his spending.
true, but she had control over the content.
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davad70
on Mar 22, 2006
Dont be silly yourself. You stated a fact. A fact is proveable. So prove it.
I don't have to prove anything. I stated a widely accepted fact. If you have proof otherwise feel free to share it.
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davad70
on Mar 22, 2006
Because I don't care much for jerk-offs that want everybody else to do research for them! Next time don't be so thin-skinned. There was "nothing" hostile in my last reply to you. There is this time.
I asked you for a link that's all. Did I say I didn't believe you? No, I did not. I was on my way out the door and didn't have time to look it up.
Virtually all your posts have a hostile tone to them.
I'm a jerk-off for asking for a link? I didn't ask you to do any research for me. If I was going to ask anyone to do research for me, it would definitely not be you.
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Dr Guy
on Mar 22, 2006
I don't have to prove anything. I stated a widely accepted fact. If you have proof otherwise feel free to share it.
If it is widely accepted, you will have no problem proving it. So do it, and quit dodging around.
let all of us ordinary people see all the court orders. Or are you just accepting someones word as a fact? That cannot be. For you would never be so stupid to do such a silly thing.
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Dr Guy
on Mar 22, 2006
I asked you for a link that's all.
So did I. Seems you are in short supply of them
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davad70
on Mar 22, 2006
If it is widely accepted, you will have no problem proving it. So do it, and quit dodging around.
let all of us ordinary people see all the court orders. Or are you just accepting someones word as a fact? That cannot be. For you would never be so stupid to do such a silly thing.
Let you see all the court orders? Are you mistakenly under the impression that I am someone who has all these orders close at hand. Do you think I am a clerk for the FISA court?
I don't have time to run down all the links at the moment, but this should get you started;
The Clinton administration program, code-named Echelon, complied with FISA. Before any conversations of U.S. persons were targeted, a FISA warrant was obtained. CIA director George Tenet testified to this before Congress on 4/12/00:
I’m here today to discuss specific issues about and allegations regarding Signals Intelligence activities and the so-called Echelon Program of the National Security Agency…
There is a rigorous regime of checks and balances which we, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency and the FBI scrupulously adhere to whenever conversations of U.S. persons are involved, whether directly or indirectly. We do not collect against U.S. persons unless they are agents of a foreign power as that term is defined in the law. We do not target their conversations for collection in the United States unless a FISA warrant has been obtained from the FISA court by the Justice Department.
Link
Now do you have some evidence that Tenet was lying?
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stevendedalus
on Mar 23, 2006
In spite of it all, the censure was dead on arrival.
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kingbee
on Mar 23, 2006
If I was going to ask anyone to do research for me, it would definitely not be you.
i was thinkin the same thing but...if someone gotsa wallow around in places like newsmax.com and worldweeklynews.com i'd much rather it be him than me.
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davad70
on Mar 23, 2006
if someone gotsa wallow around in places like newsmax.com and worldweeklynews.com i'd much rather it be him than me.
"Wallow" is oh so appropriate.
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Rightwinger
on Mar 23, 2006
In spite of it all, the censure was dead on arrival.
I'm shocked and awed.
When all anyone on that side really wants to do is complain, it's hard to find any significant numbers to actually support any real action. Espcially when they all know it really had no chance to go anywhere, at any rate.
Feingold got his 15 mins. out of it, though, and that's all he wanted; to stand out from the crowd and play leader for a couple seconds.
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drmiler
on Mar 23, 2006
if someone gotsa wallow around in places like newsmax.com and worldweeklynews.com i'd much rather it be him than me.
"Wallow" is oh so appropriate.
"piss" on BOTH of you!
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